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  Early Civilizations and Bible Chronology

  by xelder in

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  Etude said:

  particularly after the exodus from captivity in Babylon

  You DO realize that the Exodus story, as depicted in Exodus, is likely just a Hebrew tall tale, questionable to have ever occurred based on the complete lack of historical evidence? It's as much of a Hebraic myth as Noah's Flood....

  Bill Devers, Finkelstein, etc have presented overwhelming evidence to cast doubt on the historicity of the Exodus account, based on a total lack of evidence of 2 million people living in the desert (people leave animal bones after eating, rubbish), evidence of sites which indicate an ongoing existence in the Southern Levant during the time they were supposed to be "slaves" in Egypt, or no evidence of destruction of cities claimed as destroyed, and no evidence of cities existing at the time they claimed to be destroyed.

  The Exodus account MAY be based on small groups who migrated from Egypt, but "2 million" people, led by a Moses? Not a chance....
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  I think people want to believe in an Armageddon

  by dgp in

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  the end of the world (aka "this system of things") has been predicted to happen "soon" many times.

  in my own lifetime, and not being a jw, i have been warned that the world would end like six times already.

  harold camping predicted one end of the world twice only last year.

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  There have been doomsday predictions since the dawn of man, with the prime bit of historical evidence being the worldwide flood found in the Bible: that WAS Armageddon, v 1.0 (Flood account is based on older accounts found in Sumerian myths, i.e. the Epic of Gilgamesh; the actual event depicted probably is based on events which occurred 11,000 yrs ago on a local scale (Mediterrean/Black Sea), as sea levels rose following the end of the last ice age).

  There's been predictions of Armageddon ever since, with Jesus, etc. People predicted Armageddon in 999 AD, and 1000's of times since.

  There's a great summary of Armageddon predictions which appeared in People's Almanac: here's an excerpt:

  http://www.trivia-library.com/armageddon-different-views-on-the-end-of-the-world/index.htm

  Many of these people would benefit from focusing on altering their world-view based on actual evidence, or even managing/treating their anxiety disorder/depression with Xanax or anti-depressants.
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  FYI - "Florida man kills door-to-door salesman: I'll kill anybody who steps on my property"

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/26/florida-man-kills-door-to-door-salesman-i%e2%80%99ll-kill-anybody-that-steps-on-my-property/.

  florida man kills door-to-door salesman: ill kill anybody that steps on my propertya man in cape coral, florida on wednesday was arrested for shooting and killing an unarmed door-to-door salesman on his property.. kenneth bailey roop, 52, has been charged with second-degree murder for killing 30-year-old nicholas rainey.. a co-worker who witnessed the shooting said rainey had knocked on roops door, but received no answer.

  while rainey was walking down the drive-way, roop pulled up in his pickup truck and asked why rainey was at his house.

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  Nope. If nothing else, the nut job teaches a lesson about the right to remain silent, even if not placed under arrest to avoid self-incrimination. He sealed his own case when he stated that he shot the wounded man in back of the head "for effect". No law anywhere allows you to kill someone "for effect". He might've been justified for the 1st shot to the shoulder, but the coup de grace shot to the back of head was murder, execution-style. (it's harder to claim shots fired while the person was fleeing were defensive shots).

  He'll no doubt cop an insanity plea (and rightly so, as there's strong evidence for that defense).
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  FYI - "Florida man kills door-to-door salesman: I'll kill anybody who steps on my property"

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/26/florida-man-kills-door-to-door-salesman-i%e2%80%99ll-kill-anybody-that-steps-on-my-property/.

  florida man kills door-to-door salesman: ill kill anybody that steps on my propertya man in cape coral, florida on wednesday was arrested for shooting and killing an unarmed door-to-door salesman on his property.. kenneth bailey roop, 52, has been charged with second-degree murder for killing 30-year-old nicholas rainey.. a co-worker who witnessed the shooting said rainey had knocked on roops door, but received no answer.

  while rainey was walking down the drive-way, roop pulled up in his pickup truck and asked why rainey was at his house.

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  Scott77 said:

  ". The legality of a tresspassing sign may come up as well. What is the ethnic of the killer and the killed? How about the argument that by deliberately igoring the tresspassig sign, the killed guy brought death upon himself?. Needless to say, I feel very bad for his loss and its gonna be painful to his family. We will see the outcome. I will keep an eye on this case."

  Those aren't exactly unanswered legal questions; the answer is found by doing a little reserch into existing laws (which apparently the shooter didn't do).

  While the shooter will get his day in court, it's not likely he'll be raising objections based on challenging precedents determined long ago (ie use of deadly force against trespassers is already well-defined, and his posting a sign doesn't give him license to kill, just as not posting a sign doesn't mean people can enter property without the owners permission without it constituting trespassing).
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  WTS Loses Money By Disfellowshipping Info.

  by mind blown in

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  hello, i found this info interesting from a spanish xjw site and thought it may be of interest to you too?

  i used bing language translator.

  i assume when the post below refers to commissions judicatives, they may be referring to jc?.

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  Tooz said:

  " If you contribute lots of money, you can sleep with whoever you want and still be in good standing."

  Well, it's not like that wouldn't be in keeping with OT thinking: slave owners could buy as many women slaves as they could afford. However, those pesky civil laws would block that kind of tactic nowadays.... I know, what a shame when the flawed laws of imperfect men block practices of the morally-superior Bible!

  JWs will never get rid of shunning, even if the membership rolls drops to only 2. It's the interpersonal nuclear threat they use, the most power they can exert on someone without actually physically assaulting or killing them (again, those pesky civil laws block that).
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  WTS Loses Money By Disfellowshipping Info.

  by mind blown in

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  hello, i found this info interesting from a spanish xjw site and thought it may be of interest to you too?

  i used bing language translator.

  i assume when the post below refers to commissions judicatives, they may be referring to jc?.

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  Doinmypart said:

  "but the bottom line is that the WTs is losing too many members (i.e. money) out the back door and not getting enough through the front door. That is the motivation."

  Yup, word.

  A fear of losing $$$ is EXACTLY the same concern shared by all the other false religions, when deciding the seriousness of a sin. If the punishment is effected by such concerns, then how just is Gods justice, or is it determined on a sliding scale, where YHWH's palm can be greased? And what happened to "YHWH will provide all things"? Are some elders admitting that this may not be the case, and that God cannot actually afford the justice that he demands?

  Of course, we all know (or SHOULD know) the Catholics are no strangers to the issue, as they sold forgiveness; a worshipper could even buy penitence for others, eg for relatives who were thought to be trapped in purgatory, hence buying their ticket into heaven for them. The practice still lives on in various forms in many religions (but rarely so blatant!).

  Obviously these issues raise questions of how God-inspired such judicial committee decisions truly are, vs inspired by the bean-counter in the congregation....
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  Katherine Jackson going back to Indiana to celebrate Michael's 54 Birthday.

  by arwen in

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  http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/music/164532846.html?refer=y.

  dont think the jw's will think too well of this!.

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  Wasblind said:

  Hear ye !!!!! Hear ye !!!!!

  Witnesses can now celebrate the birthday of loved one's who are deceased

  Katherine Jackson has set the example

  Soooo, it's OK to celebrate the birthday of a person (or, mark the anniversary of their day of birth, if you prefer) once they're deceased?

  What about Jesus? Isn't he deceased?

  Does that mean X-mas is back on, per Katherine's example?

  WOO-HOO!!!!
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  Why reincarnation doesn,t make sense.

  by jam in

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  this accomplish?

  the situation which surround the soul.

  change with each life, therefore how does this allow.

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  JAm said:

  Moshe; The hair on the back of my neck stood up.

  You mean like the hair on the top of your avatar's head? :)

  King -Solomon, lets be nice. By the way, a co-worker was

  called King-Solomon and he was A king of his small village.

  His father had seven wives, he (King Solomon) had only two.

  Interesting, but it raises my curiousity: what part of the World do you live, where people are kings of their villages, and they practice bigamy? Africa? Middle Eastern? something else?
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  What do you do when you find yourself flip flopping on doubting?

  by marriedtoajw in

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  i've never once ever considered that the jw's were right about anything, slight exaggeration but you know what i mean, until fairly recently.

  i think i can see how people get attracted to the jw's.

  i've posted here about my struggles with my wife, well things have gotten much worst as many of you seemed to indicate might happen.

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  Wow, sorry to hear of the situation decompensating. That's really rough, but it IS life. Sometimes that's what you're served, and the challenge is how you deal with it (ie do you go into denial mode, suppress your feelings for the sake of others, etc).

  About the flip-flopping: your entire family is under a lot of stress right now, and facing many critical decisions (some which you can control, and others which it will be more like you trying to control a crash). Prioritizing the 'pecking order' of which issues to deal with is difficult, but it's OK to reprioritize temporarily just to survive. If you mean you are tempted to just cave in and accept a huge lie to achieve a bit of peace, that MAY be OK to do, to "table" the issue for now. It means you're sacrificing a bit of yourself, but that's fine: there is no time-line that needs to be followed.

  However, remember many of us here cannot live a lie forever, whether the lie is the TATT, or a marriage. At least, SOME cannot do that (i.e. anyone who has a sense of desire for truths in their life, and isn't willing to accept a substitute).

  Hang in there, and I'm sure everyone here is pulling for you AND your family...
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  Why reincarnation doesn,t make sense.

  by jam in

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  this accomplish?

  the situation which surround the soul.

  change with each life, therefore how does this allow.

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  Talesin said:

  "BTS - your personal slurs are not appreciated."

  Are you referring to the comment where BTS called you an ass, and told you to f- off?

  Ahhhh, the exquisite irony just doesn't end... In fact, it's almost like it keeps getting..... (wait for it...) reincarnated? ;)